Guide Preparation for Blackwing Lair: Consumables!

Nouska

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Hi All,

Black Wing Lair is coming. It could be in the next two weeks, it could be in March. As this is new to all of us and we are not sure yet what the difficulty will be, we need to be prepared for dealing with the 'tougher' end of the possible scale. So, this post will lay out the consumables we expect our Core Raiders to bring during progression phase. Depending on how hard or easy it is, we will update this as we go, but for the 1st few weeks this is the list we're going with. Keep in mind, this is NOT a list that the fewer items you bring , the lower priority you get on loot: we really expect our Core Raiders to make sure to have this for the 1st week. Now that PVP might start to feel old, it will give us a purpose in logging in and playing!

It's a step up from our Molten Core list, but it will also set us into the groove of starting to farm for AQ, where this list will definitely be expanded for progression.

Keep in mind that we wil not unnecessarily push for consumables usage while learning a fight, but if the Raid Leaders deem that a kill might be possible, you need to be able to pop all consumables on this list.

If you have any questions about this list, or if you are not able to source the materials: post it in this thread and we'll work with you or (if necessary) update this overview.

Tanks
15 x Tender Wolf Steak
15 x Rumsey Rum Black Label
15 x Stoneshield Potion
10 x Elixir of the Mongoose
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
5 x Greater Shadow Protection Potion
10 x Free Action Potion
10 x Gift of Arthas
5 x Restorative Potion
6 x Elemental Sharpening stones
5 x Mighty Rage Potion
5 x Holy Water
2 x Flask of the Titans (Guild will help out with these!)

Fury
10 x Juju Power
15 x Blessed Sunfruit
10 x Elixir of the Mongoose
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
5 x Greater Shadow Protection Potion
10 x Free Action Potion
5 x Restorative Potion
6 x Elemental Sharpening stones
5 x Holy Water
5 x Limited Invulnerability Potion

Rogue and Carmine
30 x Thistle Tea
10 x Juju Power
15 x Blessed Sunfruit
10 x Elixir of the Mongoose
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
5 x Greater Shadow Protection Potion
10 x Free Action Potion
5 x Restorative Potion
5 x Holy Water
5 x Limited Invulnerability Potion

Hunter
15 x Sagefish Delight
10 x Elixir of the Mongoose
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
15 x Major Mana Potion
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
5 x Greater Shadow Protection Potion
5 x Restorative Potion
5 x Holy Water
We expect you to use Thorium Headed Arrows (or better)

Warlock
15 x Runn Tum Tuber Surprise
10 x Greater Arcane Elixir
10 x Elixir of Shadow Power
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
5 x Greater Shadow Protection Potion
15 x Major Mana Potion
15 x Dark or Demonic Rune
10 x Limited Invulnerability Potion
5 x Restorative Potion

Mage
15 x Runn Tum Tuber Surprise
10 x Greater Arcane Elixir
10 x Elixir of Frost Power
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
5 x Greater Shadow Protection Potion
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
15 x Major Mana Potion
10 x Dark or Demonic Rune
10 x Limited Invulnerability Potion
5 x Restorative Potion

Healers
20 x Major Mana Potion
15 x Sagefish Delight
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
20 x Dark or Demonic Rune
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
5 x Greater Shadow Protection Potion
5 x Holy Water
5 x Restorative Potion


To nip the first few questions in the bud:

- Free Action Pots will be used for Razorgore and the Drake packs to avoid War Stomp stuns.
- Holy Water will be used for Phase 3 Nefarian (we get to all run a few Strats again, yay!).
- Fire Resistance Potions are mostly for the Vael fight, but useful in more places, so feel free to bring more.
- Restorative Potions may be asked for on Chromaggus: it can turn a close call into a kill or give dispellers a breather for 30 seconds.
- Other than for tanks, flasks will still be optional for BWL for now. Save your lotuses for AQ and Naxx.
- As said, as soon as progression is over we will update this list to make sure we don't over-ask.
- If we end up NOT needing some or most of these consumables, store them for later: you will not have farmed them for nothing.
 
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Kataya

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just a little error in the list fury warriors and rogues + carmine you mention mongoose twice. im guessing it's supposed to be something else?
 

Nouska

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just a little error in the list fury warriors and rogues + carmine you mention mongoose twice. im guessing it's supposed to be something else?
Was a copy-paste error, I removed the second one. Nothing to replace it with :)
 

Nouska

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Updated mage list with Elixir of Frost Power: it DOES stack with GAE.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't Grilled Squid be flat out better than the Blessed Sunfruit for rogues? Since agi scales better than strength for them
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't Grilled Squid be flat out better than the Blessed Sunfruit for rogues? Since agi scales better than strength for them
Same for hunters, we use Squid as well.
 

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Same for hunters, we use Squid as well.
Well for hunters there's an argument to be made for mp5 food cuz we do run out of mana pretty fast, but grilled squid just seems like a straight upgrade from Sunfruit for rogues
 

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Well for hunters there's an argument to be made for mp5 food cuz we do run out of mana pretty fast, but grilled squid just seems like a straight upgrade from Sunfruit for rogues
I guess. But hopefully everyone will spam Mana potion & Runes
 

Naz

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Well for hunters there's an argument to be made for mp5 food cuz we do run out of mana pretty fast, but grilled squid just seems like a straight upgrade from Sunfruit for rogues
Grilled Squid (depending on how much of a tryhard you are) won't be available all-year-round, or at least will go up hugely in price for a while before it disappears from the AH completely.
It only spawns between late September and late March, according to a cursory google check.

Sunfruit is the next-best choice with that in mind, iirc.
 

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Grilled Squid (depending on how much of a tryhard you are) won't be available all-year-round, or at least will go up hugely in price for a while before it disappears from the AH completely.
It only spawns between late September and late March, according to a cursory google check.

Sunfruit is the next-best choice with that in mind, iirc.
Right I completely forgot about that, thanks
 
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Hi All,

Black Wing Lair is coming. It could be in the next two weeks, it could be in March. As this is new to all of us and we are not sure yet what the difficulty will be, we need to be prepared for dealing with the 'tougher' end of the possible scale. So, this post will lay out the consumables we expect our Core Raiders to bring during progression phase. Depending on how hard or easy it is, we will update this as we go, but for the 1st few weeks this is the list we're going with. Keep in mind, this is NOT a list that the fewer items you bring , the lower priority you get on loot: we really expect our Core Raiders to make sure to have this for the 1st week. Now that PVP might start to feel old, it will give us a purpose in logging in and playing!

It's a step up from our Molten Core list, but it will also set us into the groove of starting to farm for AQ, where this list will definitely be expanded for progression.

Keep in mind that we wil not unnecessarily push for consumables usage while learning a fight, but if the Raid Leaders deem that a kill might be possible, you need to be able to pop all consumables on this list.

If you have any questions about this list, or if you are not able to source the materials: post it in this thread and we'll work with you or (if necessary) update this overview.

Tanks
15 x Tender Wolf Steak
15 x Rumsey Rum Black Label
15 x Stoneshield Potion
10 x Elixir of the Mongoose
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
10 x Free Action Potion
10 x Gift of Arthas
5 x Restorative Potion
6 x Elemental Sharpening stones
5 x Mighty Rage Potion
5 x Holy Water
2 x Flask of the Titans (Guild will help out with these!)

Fury
10 x Juju Power
15 x Blessed Sunfruit
10 x Elixir of the Mongoose
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
10 x Free Action Potion
5 x Restorative Potion
6 x Elemental Sharpening stones
5 x Holy Water
5 x Limited Invulnerability Potion

Rogue and Carmine
30 x Thistle Tea
10 x Juju Power
15 x Blessed Sunfruit
10 x Elixir of the Mongoose
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
10 x Free Action Potion
5 x Restorative Potion
5 x Holy Water
5 x Limited Invulnerability Potion

Hunter
15 x Juju Power
15 x Sagefish Delight
10 x Elixir of the Mongoose
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
15 x Major Mana Potion
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
5 x Restorative Potion
5 x Holy Water
We expect you to use Thorium Headed Arrows (or better)

Warlock
15 x Runn Tum Tuber Surprise
10 x Greater Arcane Elixir
10 x Elixir of Shadow Power
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
15 x Major Mana Potion
15 x Dark or Demonic Rune
10 x Limited Invulnerability Potion
5 x Restorative Potion

Mage
15 x Runn Tum Tuber Surprise
10 x Greater Arcane Elixir
10 x Elixir of Frost Power
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
15 x Major Mana Potion
10 x Dark or Demonic Rune
10 x Limited Invulnerability Potion
5 x Restorative Potion

Healers
20 x Major Mana Potion
15 x Sagefish Delight
10 x Elixir of Fortitude
20 x Dark or Demonic Rune
10 x Greater Fire Resistance Potion
5 x Holy Water
5 x Restorative Potion


To nip the first few questions in the bud:

- Free Action Pots will be used for Razorgore and the Drake packs to avoid War Stomp stuns.
- Holy Water will be used for Phase 3 Nefarian (we get to all run a few Strats again, yay!).
- Fire Resistance Potions are mostly for the Vael fight, but useful in more places, so feel free to bring more.
- Restorative Potions may be asked for on Chromaggus: it can turn a close call into a kill or give dispellers a breather for 30 seconds.
- Other than for tanks, flasks will still be optional for BWL for now. Save your lotuses for AQ and Naxx.
- As said, as soon as progression is over we will update this list to make sure we don't over-ask.
- If we end up NOT needing some or most of these consumables, store them for later: you will not have farmed them for nothing.
Would you add Greater Shadow Protection pots for BWL progression? We used them in my old guild even on farm for nef tbh
 

Nouska

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We will not be doing mandatory world buffs for now. Let's first see if we run into a wall before making those kind of calls that have a LOT of impact player time. At least the consumables can be farmed on our own time :).
 

Nouska

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Any other items that increase your personal performance are always appreciated!
 
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